Health -50 - Guild Wars Forums

holl0wtipped · Aug 18, 2005, 06:04 PM // 18:04

I'v noticed that people seem to be buying Health -50 items for farming chars. I asked one person why and he said the less health you have the less damage you take. Is this true? I have a farming monk and I am thinking of going with the crowd and buyin a health -50 focus item.

PS. Iv also noticed increased dye drops... anyone else noticed?

Foppe · Aug 18, 2005, 06:07 PM // 18:07

At the dye drops, I guess ur just lucky.

Volarian · Aug 18, 2005, 06:09 PM // 18:09

I've seen more dye drops in the last 2 weeks than throughout the entire previous 3 months.
Yes the -50 health assists with the solo Monk build whereby making certain enchantments you cast on yourself.....ummm UBER!!

Zenny · Aug 18, 2005, 06:09 PM // 18:09

The -50 Health item is referring to the 55 and 105 Monk Builds that are commonly used to solo UW. It abuses Protective Bond (Take only 5% damage) and lowest possible health making you nearly invincible. Do a search for it if you're curious.

Count Feanor · Aug 18, 2005, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Do you have to be level 20 to use that build?

Ranger Li · Aug 18, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57

To use it effectively yes, and to even get to UW , u have to ascend which USUALLY takes u to 20 unless u rushed a LOT

Maxiemonster · Aug 18, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57

No, if you're lower level, you have less health, if you have less health and you can get to another damage breakpoint, it's even better.

It's a pitty 55 Healh is minimum for lvl 20, 39 Health would be perfect

aB- · Aug 18, 2005, 07:01 PM // 19:01

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Originally Posted by Maxiemonster

No, if you're lower level, you have less health, if you have less health and you can get to another damage breakpoint, it's even better.

Unfortunately, it comes at the cost of skill points, and soloing in the UW will net you huge amounts of EXP to quickly boost you to level 20 if you're not already.

Syuveil · Aug 18, 2005, 07:29 PM // 19:29

They want the -50 because of a skill that makes it so you can only take 5% damage.... herm it seems it's been explained.

On the dyes:
yes, I just did pre searing yesterday with a new charry, and I found x2 silver dyes, x1 of everything else except for no blacks

But still, that was impressive. Sell em all before the price starts to decline.

Syuveil · Aug 18, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Having to be ascended to get into the UW is false... I think it was just assumed and now is thought of as the truth. My N/E's first trip into the UW was before she was ascended...

EDIT: oh feck, x2 post. sorry.

Rajamic · Aug 18, 2005, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by Syuveil

Having to be ascended to get into the UW is false... I think it was just assumed and now is thought of as the truth. My N/E's first trip into the UW was before she was ascended...

EDIT: oh feck, x2 post. sorry.

From the July 13th update notes on thje official site:
Added party configuration requirement so that parties containing henchmen or unascended players are now prevented from entering the Fissure of Woe and the Underworld.

Kali Ma · Aug 18, 2005, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Fwiw... I have a lvl 20 character that's probably more like lvl 25, and that has yet to complete the actual Ascension mission, yet can get into UW and FoW just fine. It probably just checks what one's level is, rather than if they've completed the Ascension mission or not. However, this character had reached lvl 20 before the update, and been into the FoW a few times... so don't know if that makes a difference or not.

Kool Pajamas · Aug 18, 2005, 09:36 PM // 21:36

I've noticed more dyes too. I was outside Piken Square killing Charr for some hides, and got 2 yellow and 1 silver pretty quickly. Or maybe it was because I was soloing. I dont usually do that.

EF2NYD · Aug 19, 2005, 12:10 AM // 00:10

You have to be ascended.

Man Of A Thousand Faces · Aug 19, 2005, 04:29 AM // 04:29

I'm going to have to try this build out to fund my other characters sometime later on maybe.

trancejeremy · Aug 19, 2005, 04:29 AM // 04:29

I have a 20th level W/Mo, and it wouldn't let me. Said something like "The gods say that ______ (My character's name) is not allowed since he's not ascended"

=HT=Ingram · Aug 21, 2005, 02:33 PM // 14:33

Ascenciion is required. Not running to temple of ages th emin you become level 20, but actually playing the game and beating your Mirror Self in augry rock (in the crystal desert). THAT is ascension.

VGJustice · Aug 21, 2005, 03:57 PM // 15:57

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Originally Posted by Kali Ma

Fwiw... I have a lvl 20 character that's probably more like lvl 25, and that has yet to complete the actual Ascension mission, yet can get into UW and FoW just fine. It probably just checks what one's level is, rather than if they've completed the Ascension mission or not. However, this character had reached lvl 20 before the update, and been into the FoW a few times... so don't know if that makes a difference or not.

no, I'd imagine that that's intentional. Anet probably has a record or some kind of character tag to show who's been to the FoW or the UW. If you'd gone to those places before the update, wouldn't it just be a slap in the face if they suddenly decided that you were no longer allowed?

I'd say Anet is being nice with that one, as unascended characters are no longer allowed.

help me plz · Aug 23, 2005, 12:07 AM // 00:07

cuase then u can use protective bonds and it will provent more dmg

Aug 18, 2005, 06:04 PM // 18:04	#1
holl0wtipped Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Bethesda Profession: R/Mo	Health -50 I'v noticed that people seem to be buying Health -50 items for farming chars. I asked one person why and he said the less health you have the less damage you take. Is this true? I have a farming monk and I am thinking of going with the crowd and buyin a health -50 focus item. PS. Iv also noticed increased dye drops... anyone else noticed?

Aug 18, 2005, 06:07 PM // 18:07	#2
Foppe Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: COLD, Cold Snap	At the dye drops, I guess ur just lucky.

Aug 18, 2005, 06:09 PM // 18:09	#3
Volarian Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas Guild: NOT-Nomads Of Turmoil	I've seen more dye drops in the last 2 weeks than throughout the entire previous 3 months. Yes the -50 health assists with the solo Monk build whereby making certain enchantments you cast on yourself.....ummm UBER!!

Aug 18, 2005, 06:09 PM // 18:09	#4
Zenny Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Moa Birds [MB] Profession: Mo/N	The -50 Health item is referring to the 55 and 105 Monk Builds that are commonly used to solo UW. It abuses Protective Bond (Take only 5% damage) and lowest possible health making you nearly invincible. Do a search for it if you're curious.

Aug 18, 2005, 06:53 PM // 18:53	#5
Count Feanor Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hellsing Organization or... RIGHT BEHIND YOU!! Guild: The Royal Priesthood Profession: N/W	Do you have to be level 20 to use that build?

Aug 18, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57	#6
Ranger Li Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Guild: Eminent Apocalypse [Ea] Profession: R/	To use it effectively yes, and to even get to UW , u have to ascend which USUALLY takes u to 20 unless u rushed a LOT

Aug 18, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57	#7
Maxiemonster There is no spoon. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Netherlands Profession: Mo/	No, if you're lower level, you have less health, if you have less health and you can get to another damage breakpoint, it's even better. It's a pitty 55 Healh is minimum for lvl 20, 39 Health would be perfect

Aug 18, 2005, 07:29 PM // 19:29	#9
Syuveil Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Minnesota Guild: Wrath of Nature [WoN] Profession: R/	They want the -50 because of a skill that makes it so you can only take 5% damage.... herm it seems it's been explained. On the dyes: yes, I just did pre searing yesterday with a new charry, and I found x2 silver dyes, x1 of everything else except for no blacks But still, that was impressive. Sell em all before the price starts to decline.

Aug 18, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34	#10
Syuveil Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Minnesota Guild: Wrath of Nature [WoN] Profession: R/	Having to be ascended to get into the UW is false... I think it was just assumed and now is thought of as the truth. My N/E's first trip into the UW was before she was ascended... EDIT: oh feck, x2 post. sorry.

Aug 18, 2005, 08:35 PM // 20:35	#12
Kali Ma Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: N/Mo	Fwiw... I have a lvl 20 character that's probably more like lvl 25, and that has yet to complete the actual Ascension mission, yet can get into UW and FoW just fine. It probably just checks what one's level is, rather than if they've completed the Ascension mission or not. However, this character had reached lvl 20 before the update, and been into the FoW a few times... so don't know if that makes a difference or not.

Aug 18, 2005, 09:36 PM // 21:36	#13
Kool Pajamas Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland Guild: Mage Elites [MAGE]	I've noticed more dyes too. I was outside Piken Square killing Charr for some hides, and got 2 yellow and 1 silver pretty quickly. Or maybe it was because I was soloing. I dont usually do that.

Aug 19, 2005, 12:10 AM // 00:10	#14
EF2NYD Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005	You have to be ascended.

Aug 19, 2005, 04:29 AM // 04:29	#15
Man Of A Thousand Faces Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Loveland, Colorado Guild: Patriarch Knights Profession: R/N	I'm going to have to try this build out to fund my other characters sometime later on maybe.

Aug 19, 2005, 04:29 AM // 04:29	#16
trancejeremy Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: W/Mo	I have a 20th level W/Mo, and it wouldn't let me. Said something like "The gods say that ______ (My character's name) is not allowed since he's not ascended"

Aug 21, 2005, 02:33 PM // 14:33	#17
=HT=Ingram Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Anchorage Alaska Guild: Haz Team [HT] Profession: R/W	Ascenciion is required. Not running to temple of ages th emin you become level 20, but actually playing the game and beating your Mirror Self in augry rock (in the crystal desert). THAT is ascension.

Aug 23, 2005, 12:07 AM // 00:07	#19
help me plz Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005	cuase then u can use protective bonds and it will provent more dmg